Easy Lunches. I have eaten it hot and cold and for breakfast, lunch and dinner. http://glutenfreepoodle.blogspot.com/2012/08/gluten-free-tomato-pie.html. Assemble the pie. Either way, while this is the first tomato pie recipe I could find using ripe tomatoes, this is clearly not the tomato pie recipe of modern times. Dot over the final layer of tomatoes. Only two things that money cant buy and thats true love and homegrown tomatoes. Guy Clark. Its a favorite! In Birmingham, Grimes honed her skills as an editor and recipe developer before opening Black Sheep Kitchen, where her ready-made entrees like veggie lasagna and chicken piccata offer weeknight reprieve from cooking for young families and fill the coolers of folks heading to Lake Martin or the beaches of 30A. What variety? Wake-up-in-the-middle-of-the-night good! I have a little time on my hands so I make buttermilk biscuits from scratch. The version I love, what with its mayonnaise and shredded cheese, has a certain 1950s feel. In addition, you can add any other types of cheeses or meats to your pie. Tomato pie is from the new old school, McDermott said, not the old old schoolthe category that contains such venerable favorites as chicken and dumplings and spoonbread. 2 large, perfectly ripe tomatoes, sliced 1/4-inch thick The only problem that I have with tomatoes is the juice they put off. lol I dont care for the store bought biscuits in the first place, but I really dont care for biscuits in the pie either. This is my first year without a garden so I have to pick my tomatoes from the local farmers market. This provides no real relevance to our Southern tomato pie. Both versions were good. So if you find a good GF biscuit formula by all means let me know! Thank you so very much for this AND for everything else you send. I made this Tomato Pie over the weekend and it turned out great. Really nice. Then layer the tomato slices over the crust, and give them a sprinkling of salt and pepper. Made this last night for dinner with some kale soup soooo deelish!!! Fresh basil and lots of it was key. $21.00. OH . The best tasting but more expensive choice is Rustichella D Abruzzo Pesto Alla Genovese Sauce. To make this impressive tomato pie, start with your favorite .css-1c1h30u{-webkit-text-decoration:underline;text-decoration:underline;text-decoration-thickness:0.0625rem;text-decoration-color:inherit;text-underline-offset:0.25rem;color:#12837c;-webkit-transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;}.css-1c1h30u:hover{color:#595959;text-decoration-color:border-link-body-hover;}pie crust (or store-bought crust if youre looking for a shortcut), then layer it with slices of vine-ripened tomatoes and a cheesy, herb-packedfilling. Everyone knows my feelings on that one.an expensive little box of dust. More often than not, tomatoes obtained from the supermarket in winter have traveled 3,000 miles in a refrigerated truck. TAKE SOME PERFECTLY RIPE TOMATOES, place them on a bed of store-bought biscuits, top them with basil, mayonnaise and cheddar cheese, bake the works until puffed and golden, and what will you have? Hello There Friends, Tomato Pie is one of my most favourite appetizers! document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Made this pie for dinner tonightOMG!!! Remove from oven and add a layer of cheese, onion, and tomatoes. Total Time: 40 minutes. A simple Southern Tomato pie is one of the true treats of summer, but if there is one consistent complaint, its about the mayo. Thank you my Great Culinary Guru !!! Absolutely, but I cant say that all will be lost if you dont. Tomorrow I will make the spinach and cheese strata. The sweet green tomato pie is the only type of tomato pie recipe that appears in Southern newspaper reports until a recipe using ripe tomatoes appears in the Fayetteville Observer (TN) in late June 1855. We are so fortunate that tomatoes love the South, and our heat and humidity, Grimes says. Better to just eat it all right away! If you make this pie, I suspect that not only will you keep your title as Best Cook, but the Sommersette Club will place a diamond tiara on your head. In short, the recipe exceeded my expectations and was absolutely fantastic. I followed the recipe exactly as written, Dawn wrote. Layer tomato slices on top, overlapping if necessary. Place jalapeno rings over the pie. Waiting to taste it. I have lots of tomatoes, so would like to make several pies while tomatoes are in season and then bake when ready to use. Unwrap dough and place it on a lightly floured surface. (Im not familiar with the dinner rolls Country style dough you mentioned.) Youve asked not to double post on on Cuisinart Giveaway and I forgot to send you a wishes there, so Ill do it here HAPPY ANNIVERSARY TO YOU BOTH! Lay sliced tomatoes out on a baking sheet lined with paper towels. Thanks for sharing your recipe. I say that with all admiration, of courseto compare something to a pizza is never to belittle it.). I did find when I used regular plain yogurt instead of 2 percent the topping came out better and the family is divided on preferring cheddar or gruyere. Your additions sound delicious need. I love this recipe!! Cook the spiced tomato mixture over low heat, stirring frequently. Thank you for this winner!!! Allow pie to cool for 15-20 minutes before slicing. Sheila So glad you liked the pie. I havent tried this or your wonderful recipes yet but I plan to! Thanks! Hey Kevin nice to know Im not the only one with a cough cough not very clean oven . Slice tomatoes into -inch-thick slices. I love tomatoes! Preheat the oven to 400 degrees. I cannot wait to try this!!! (I dont always peel the tomatoes, but if the skins are especially tough, you may want to peel them before slicing.). Thanks so much for being so emphatic about us trying this. But Sharon (comment #122) tried a cold slice, and thought it was delicious indeed. This recipe should come with a warning to tomato lovers. Saving my seeds now for next year. I WILL BE making the Classic Tomato Pie. Or, you can make a thick cheese sauce just by heating the cheddar with a little heavy cream, perhaps add a little flour. This is a nice Sunday brunch recipe. It is DELICIOUS! I am right with Rosemarie. Hope youll let me know how the recipe works out for you. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement and Your California Privacy Rights. Try These Recipes for Dinner, Traditional Irish Side Dishes for St. Paddy's Day, The Best Vegetables in Season Come Spring, Oven-Roasted Asparagus Is the Perfect Side Dish. You can visit the site and find the recipe at A Garden for the House. I can tolerate eggs, butter,and milk for cooking only, if this helps. I have solved this issue by cutting the tomatoes and put them on paper towels to soak up the juices while I am putting the rest of the ingredients together. Kevin, you are truly such an inspiration to us all. Slowly add ice water, pulsing the mixture for no longer than 30 seconds, just until it begins to form a ball. Im going to try this with a polenta crust instead. Thank you for your sparkling posts and lively repartee! Youll get a similar look to the dish, though more body and not as creamy.. What is a biscuit in Australia and Britain is more like a scone, yeast roll, or bread in America. Add yeast to warm water and allow to bloom for 5 minutes. Anyone have any wine pairing suggestions? Preheat your oven to 400 degrees. My friends always rave about the tomato pie. . For the filling, mix sugar, flour, cornstarch, cinnamon and salt. A delicious "pizza like" pie that comes from my hometown of Utica, NY. a lightly-greased 9-inch-diameter pie plate (not "deep dish"), COPYRIGHT20092023 | ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | KEVIN LEE JACOBS. I have an adult 19 yr old son who doesnt like mayo it makes him hurl, so will try the recipe when he isnt home or with the yogurt when he is. Thanks so much, Kevin, you are my go- to cook! Debbie Sounds like your pie was extra-extra fresh. Crme Brle French Toast. Kevin, that sure does look delicious! However next time I will take your advice and leave the bacon behind. The crust is slightly crunchy, but the best bite of a Corropolese tomato pie might just be that thin, gooey layer where the dough slightly absorbs the sauce. I did make a few substitutions, was short on basil so used some chopped chives, curley & flat leaf parsley. THANK YOU! Just be sure to let the pie cool before slicing it so the filling has a chance to firm up after baking. Should be lower-middle rack. (Although I suspect others have had great success with baking the pie at the middle level.) Prepare the dish: Reduce oven temperature to 325. I must ask, though, if it would probably be alright to lessen the amount of topping and maybe mix in some mashed potato for texture? Thank you for all your comments, recipes ,tips for all, Kevin! Meanwhile, slice the tomatoes crosswise into -inch thick slices. I make it several times each summer. Cant tell anyone it had been tried what they dont know etc, etc, etc. I was trying to think of something lovely for breakfast on Saturday, Aug 17th for Tammy and me to have before heading to your Garden Open House. It is a savory tomato pie, at least. YOU CRY.and post that you do. I then divide in half and layer the first half with salt and paper - then top with pesto instead of fresh basil by dropping scant teaspoons of pesto (approximately 1/2 cup total) over the tomatoes before topping with the mayonnaise and cheese mixture. Slice ripe tomatoes into to -inch thick slices, resting on paper towels for about hour to wick away moisture. You are evil This looks great but I am trying to git rid of 30 pounds. I can even see making single portions in small pyrex bowls with sliced grape or cherry tomatoes and one biscuit. Add the onion and cook, stirring, until golden, about 15 minutes. I think I will try that when my tomatoes ripen! Im making another one this weekend. Remove weights and discard parchment. She makes a fantastic quiche and this pie would be a great addition to her summer Sunday menu! Prep: Preheat the oven to 450F. Cant wait to try this. 1. The universe has spoken and it is good.I JUST said out loud that I need a new recipe for these fresh tomatoes, and here is the answer from YOU, Kevin! Oh, tehehee, I am eating a cold piece of the pie as I type this, MMMMMMmmmmm. The first newspaper report from any Southern state focusing on something called tomato pie appeared in the Tarboro Press (Tarboro, NC) on November 10, 1838. Since 1995, Epicurious has been the ultimate food resource for the home cook, with daily kitchen tips, fun cooking videos, and, oh yeah, over 33,000 recipes. :o) I saw another version that had sliced onions in it too, but not sure if I would like onions in it. Thanks, Joan. This looks so amazing and I love how simple it is! Uploaded to Pinterest. Have a Toaster Oven? the pie. In a small bowl combine remaining 1/4 cup cheddar cheese, 1/4 cup mozzarella cheese and 1/4 cup mayonnaise. Id never heard of tomato pie before poor me! I wouldnt mind writing a post or elaborating on a lot of the subjects you write about here. Thanks for the great recipes and garden inspirations! 5,038 reviews #1 of 532 Restaurants in Charleston $$$$ American Soups Vegetarian Friendly. Packed with Caramelized Onyo, this Tomato Pie will become one of your favourite dishe. Sprinkle top of pie with fresh basil or chives and a bit more Parmigiano, if desired. Off now to blanch and freeze Swiss Chard and green beans, per Dr. KLJ. "This recipe is fantastic and worth the extra work," says gz1gz2. In this case, an article entitled Tomato Pie for Luncheon appeared in The Times-Dispatch in Richmond, VA. @ Kevin, this is amazing! I was faced with pills bury crescent rolls. From 1855 until well into the 1900s, green tomato pie recipes are virtually all that appear in newspapers throughout the South. Im a little iffy on the mayo tho. Absolutely delicious!. Sprinkle the cornmeal over the bottom of the crust. This might make a difference to ensure the crust absortbs the juice??? Many of the storebought tasteless tomatoes are grown right here on the Eastern Shore of VA. Deb Perry, Traverse City, Michigan. When I want to feel home I bake this pie. Let dough rest for 10 minutes, then knead once more on low speed for 10 minutes. My 4 tier mini greenhouse took off and the frame was badly buckled by the wind.in July.go figure as you might say. Epicurious may earn a portion of sales from products that are purchased through our site as part of our Affiliate Partnerships with retailers. Blind bake a pie shell, homemade or store-bought, with a 1-inch slit in the bottom for about 5 minutes. I made last night and was one of the most delicious things I have made in a long time. I typically let them drain for quite a while, much longer than the 10 minutes the recipe calls for. Be sure to punch holes in the bottom of the crust. I have tried several of your recipes and theyre all delicious (except for the one where I couldnt make caramel!). Hehehe, oh Lily. Made it tonight. http://glutenfreepoodle.blogspot.com/2011/06/biscuits.html, http://glutenfreepoodle.blogspot.com/2012/08/gluten-free-tomato-pie.html, https://www.agardenforthehouse.com/2012/08/classic-tomato-pie-2/, OK as the saying goes- you know you are Southern when. - Ritual Waters. In this case, however, the recipe is also for a sweet pie. Made it last night for supper and just had the leftovers for breakfast! For the gluten free (we have a few in our family), I used Bobs Red Mill gluten free biscuit mix one of the times that I made it. Drizzle 2 tablespoons olive oil over the top. Im going to try it with glorias gluten-free biscuit dough. Later culinary mile-markers on her path included formal culinary training and a stint in the kitchen of Danny Meyer-owned Union Square Caf in New York. Im making this for lunch, gotta run , its almost lunchtime! Set aside. Sounds like an idea for the Tomatillo.Kevin, I have a bunch of Tomatillo and was thinking trying to make a pizza sauce recipe with them, do you have a recipe like that I could try>. Layer 1/3 of the tomato slices, 1/3 of the cheese mixture, and 1/3 of the basil. . We had an unusually hot Summer in WI which I thought would be ideal for our tomatoes. On the other hand, folks down South make a savory pie filled with sliced ripe tomatoes and cheese. Let cool. Pour water and yeast mixture into the flour and mix with your hand until all of the dry flour is just mixed in. OMGosh! Thank you again and keep going! She has been writing and editing lifestyle content for more than a decade. Found your easy perfect Tomato Pie Recipe and said, Bingo! Since I was doing roasted chicken, my garden green beans with onions, peppers and ham hock, the addition of the red tomatoes was a perfect companion. Thanks for this recipe. Remove dough from refrigerator and roll out on a lightly floured surface into a 12-inch circle. xo. Store crust in refrigerator until ready to use. David Shields, a historian of southern food and the author of the new book Southern Provisions: The Creation and Revival of a Cuisine, told me that savory tomato pies have roots in the south as far back as the 1830s, when they included a meat, like beef or mutton, that was eventually excised from the recipe. I hope to make this tomato pie later in the week. Not something Im familiar with over here! Even my boyfriend who doesn't like tomatoes loved it. This pie looks amazing but I have no more ripe tomatoes. Morgan I can tell you the pie is utterly delicious with Brandywines, including Cherokee Purple. And thank you for the GF tip! I did make a few changes.i added a handful of shredded Parmesan, about 3/4 teaspoon of dry mustard and a tablespoon of fresh lemon juice to the mayo mixture.this is one of those recipes that can have many variations. Check. Fresh summer tomatoes emit a lot of water when cooked. Thanks! Deborah Tomato pie is awesome as-is, but it certainly invites the fun of variations! But its a delicious dish. This looks wonderful! Corropolese. Ok, Im hearing the angel choir. Hi Chip Some readers have reported great success using Pillsbury crescent rolls. It is not as pretty as the sites pie but it is scrumptious and loved making it and it is fast and simple. Thank you Kevin. I used my own biscuit recipe and sometime the store-canned type. Im definitely going to make this.and regarding the unhealthy nature of the pie? Bring the juices to a boil over medium heat and cook until thick, viscous, glossy, and reduced to about 3/4 cup, about 8 minutes. Just ate my first piece of the pie. Set it aside to cool. Maybe tomorrow! I purchase my tomatoes from a local farmers market, perfect every time. Season with pepper to taste. i added bacon and it was CRAZY good! Roll 1 ball of pie dough into a 13-inch circle on a lightly floured surface. Anyone else have trouble with the pie coming out too wet from particularly juicy tomatoes? Preparation. Cut the butter into small pieces and drop it into the flour mixture. Our tomatoes in the PNW got a late start with lots of rain this year.. so we are patiently and not so patiently waiting! It is dee-vine. But lots of readers have told me they amended the recipe with bacon, and loved it. I think we, in Australia, dont have the same biscuits/ crackers that you do. We are lucky to have any tomatoes at all! And Im pretty sure I can, but could I substitute the tomatoes with cherry types? Results? Still scrumptious with it, but it was almost to much. Sadly, our tomatoes are about gone but will be hitting local farmers markets and YES, it will be served at club just made a day earlier But shhhhhhhhhhh.. Will have to try it with the biscuits though. My flower seeds that stayed in their packets for far too long thank you and my soon to be container garden thanks you. Thoughts? (A northeastern creation, also called tomato pie, is the one that gets the Wikipedia entry, but its more like a pizza. Let cool for 1 hours. Squeeze as much moisture as you can out of the chopped tomatoes, using either paper towels, a clean dish towel, or a potato ricer. I have to tell you that I search for recipes all the time, but you are the only person Im dedicated to. Thanks, Kevin. If you know this is how most Southern tomato pie recipes start, would you want to dive in? Place the five reserved tomato slices on top. This has become our summertime comfort food favorite. Is there a way to make this without the cheese? Made it last season. And half of mine is gone just to prove that point!!! This is so quick and easy, yet sooooooo yummy. Looks beautiful , and yummy. Will be on the menu as long as there are local tomatoes available. It keeps my pie from getting too runny. Add butter, remove from heat, and let stand until slightly cooled. Now I will try the tomato pie! Will make this as soon as I get ripe garden tomatoes! Slice all of the tomatoes, and roughly chop all of the herbs. Southern Tomato Pie. Also known as Ohio lemon pie, this Shaker lemon pie is a Midwestern favorite. Thank you for reposting . Just came in my mailbox this am! Best year we have had for several years. In other words, it will work with almost anything. Brenda That is music to my ears. Kevin, I make this pie for every summer party Im invited to (I get requests for it!). The space is stunning with multiple indoor and outdoor options for seating as well as a large bar area. This can cause a very soggy pie when you cut in to it. If its too hot to even think about turning on your oven, Grimes recently partnered with Birmingham-based healthy meal-delivery service, Nourish, to ship her tomato pies to customers nationwideat least until the good tomatoes run out in September. Bake in the bottom third of the oven for 17 to 20 minutes, or until the edges begin to lightly brown. Place pan on a baking sheet lined with parchment. Sprinkle cup mozzarella cheese on the bottom and bake for 10 minutes until lightly browned. Looks delicious, but can anyone advise what biscuits are/suitable substitute for those of us salivating in the U.K. please? It keeps my pie from getting too runny. Kevin, it looks so delicious but do you think it would work with the following substitutions? Cant wait for it to come out of the oven!!! I have made this so many times since you first shared it. Savoury crackers? I did allow the resting period, but the bottom of the crust was very soggy. Prick the dough all over with a fork. Let sit for 10-15 minutes, then use fresh paper towels to pat-dry the tomatoes and remove move of the excess juice so the . Growing up in the west Texas town of Seagraves, Grimes had a backyard garden teeming with everything from peas and beans to watermelon and tomatoes. Whisk together the Duke's mayonnaise, sour cream, lemon juice, basil, and pepper in a small bowl. I definitely had mine on the upper middle rack (not the top, next one down) so Im wondering if that makes a difference. Place in a colander and sprinkle with 1/2 teaspoon of table salt. Thank you,, Kevin. This Tomato Pie Is the Savory Dish of Our Dreams, Your Privacy Choices: Opt Out of Sale/Targeted Ads. I have made it several times since the last time you posted the recipe and everyone LOVES it! La Contessa I dont think Phyllo dough will work for this pie. I really want to try a hearty no cheese version. Please?? You might like to substitute low-fat yogurt for the mayo, just as my friend Ed did when he made this pie for his friends on Fire Island. Season with salt and pepper. Made 2 of the jewels and it was a HIT! Instructions. A taste of summer in December. Yikes! Huggles! And it is so easy to put together. badger gardener Amen to that. Im off to the kitchen, thanks! If you find the wait for those first ripe tomatoes interminably long, this pie will only compound the anticipation. Apryl It should taste even better than it smells! Does that help? Then I tried them in round pans and then switched to rectangular. Everything came together in her second year of business when she landed on using spring-form pans, which have steep straight sidesand allows each pie to contain more tomatoes suspended in a velvety custard hug. Your email address will not be published. Great idea to use a butter crust and a casserole dish for extra tomatoes and yumminess! Kevin -perfect timing. I maked it often this summer, its even great cold with a small salad and glass of ice tea.. Preheat the oven to 375 F. Southern Tomato Pie | 82 Queen. Again, rave reviews from my husband Daniel. It's truly what my Sunday family dinner dreams are made of, and I hope you'll find the same to be true. While you certainly can freeze a tomato pie, its probably not the best idea. I cannot believe you said to use store bought biscuits for this delectable concoction. I am really enjoying it!! I am sending the recipe to our daughter in the UK for her tomatoes when they finally get ripe. [], Your email address will not be published. I love your blog-so inspirational . There is a parking deck across the street which helps too . It really is the pinnacle of late-summer eating! I Love this as a tomato pie. Come on, tomatoes They are keeping me waiting this year. I use a store bought pie crust (pre bake before adding tomatoes) and add sauted onions and crispy chopped bacon before the mayo-cheese layer. I had to laugh when you said Lily came into the kitchen when she smelled the cheese. Turn down the oven to 375 degrees F (190 degrees C). I owned my own Bakery for 53 years. Cant wait to try! There are masses of ripe tomatoes in my garden, so Ill be making this very soon!! He notes in his recipe which usesmayonnaise that his friend uses yogurt instead. Long-distance tomatoes are tasteless tomatoes. I hate to use the word quiche, but it has a custardy binder. By late June, Grimes can supplement her found-at-the-farmers-market tomatoes with the more than two-dozen varieties grown at Sandlin Farms in nearby Holly Pond. My mom loved tomato sandwiches with mayo and would of loved this pie. Repeat the layering with the remaining ingredients. Make the dough: Combine flour, salt, and yeast in the bowl of a stand mixer fitted with the dough hook attachment. So be it. I just found this recipe. Thank you! Reduce oven heat to 350 degrees F and bake the pie uncovered for 30-35 minutes. Keep up the good work! Whats a bit confusing is the reference to a rich pastry dough AND a baking powder biscuit dough. To my mind, this implies there is a pie crust on the bottom with a biscuit topping, but I cannot be certain. Always wanted to make one. Ingredients for one 9-inch pie Pat the dough into the bottom and sides of a 9-inch pie plate. I think some mentioned the horrible words GF Bisquick. I made this last year and it was AMAZING! So along you came and answered my concern. I commented earlier that it was going to be for dinner. Didnt even make it to the table, stood right there at the counter and scarfed it up. Whoever told me having a CSA and 8 tomato plants (by whoever I mean me) is INSANE! can I make this as a crustless egg-white quiche? Thats why God invented Lipitor! I use store-brand biscuits that come in a little cardboard tube. Its thrifty use of whole lemons is unique and gives the pie a lovely combination of sweet, tart and slightly bitter flavors. And deep-frying! And last night we fought over the last remaining piece think I got my share LOL! I posted photos of mine on facebook (as well as your original post) and when the comments come pouring in, I will point them to your blog so they can have the recipe too. Yummmmmcant wait to make this pie! (YeaI know. Im using an heirloom called Pineapple Tomato for my version, orange and yellow stripes, and so good I was tempted, at first bite, to just rub it all over my face..slurp. I dont think Ive read your past tomato pie posts so Ill have to go and do that right away! For a thicker crust, use biscuits labeled jumbo-size or grands., Toss the biscuits into a lightly-greased 9-inch pie plate. This is going to be FUN!! Place tomatoes in baked pie shell, add sliced or chopped basil and gently mix. Weight of total amount please? And thank you for passing this site on to others. Sorry if this has already been asked but are we talking sweet biscuits here like a digestive or something? It wouldnt be out of place at a potluck next to, say, green bean casserole, or a seven-layer salad. Talk about taste and falling in love instantly. Totally delicious! Hi Kevin, I will definitely be making it, and fortunately, I have home grown tomatoes from my own garden. Crimp the edges of the crust. Allow to rest for at least 15 minutes before cutting and serving. Im so glad I found this recipe a couple of years ago. Can you tell me about them please and maybe I can seek out a suitable substitute. I wanted something simple and tasty to highlight our glorious tomatoes, Grimes says, although finding the right recipe took a bit of tinkering. Slice and Coat: Slice the tomatoes to about 1/4-inch in thickness and arrange them in a single layer on a paper towel-lined baking sheet. Last thought if above causes changes. This Tomato Pie isnt what you promised its 100 times better! Either way, this Tomato Pie is outstanding! Begin layering ingredients, starting with tomatoes. Placethe remaining tomatoes on top, pressing the last layer gently into the mayo mixture. The answer to that question depends on where you live. This does sound terrific! We enjoyed our home and garden. I was quickly distracted by the recipe for this pie and Ive been able to think of little else since then. Thanks so much! Im curious whether or not you think the tarts brise crust would work for this pie, or if it wouldnt be able to absorb as much juice. Dont substitute anything, make it just like he tells you to. It is so delicious. Thank you! Tomatoes at our local farm! For my oven, I baked it for 35 minutes and broiled it until the cheese was browned. south coast of England, the US climate zones wont apply but Ill keep you updated with any results.
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